Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby Holds a Press Briefing > U.S. Division of Protection > Transcript


PRESS SECRETARY JOHN F. KIRBY:  So, as you’ll be able to see, standing with me are superb Pentagon tour guides from ceremonial models which are representing 5 branches of the army, together with the Coast Guard. Since being closed to most people, since March of 2020, I am happy to announce that on the tenth of Could, the Pentagon will reopen excursions on a restricted foundation. 

It is going nice in the present day. Now, they have been getting ready, as I believe you understand, and you will have seen all of them all through the hallway, getting ready for fairly a while right here to showcase the greater than 30 reveals that present the historical past and the accomplishments of the U.S. armed forces and the Division of Protection. So, the excursions are going to be performed on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. And anyone wanting up — trying to do it, we ask you to schedule your tour by means of protection.gov. There is a request-a-tour hyperlink. You simply go proper there. 

These are our most interesting younger women and men. I do know you guys are all conversant in them, however they honestly are, they symbolize the easiest of one of the best of every service. It takes lots to turn out to be a member of the ceremonial guard. After which they go from that to changing into a pentagon tour information. I understand how excited they’re about getting again to work and getting again at it. And I understand how proud they’re all going to proceed to make us. So, I actually admire it. Thanks very a lot. 

All proper, with that, we’ll take questions. Lita, I believe you are first. 

Q:  So, I used to be questioning should you may speak just a little bit concerning the obvious motion of Russian troops out of Mariupol. Do you assess at this level that there is no Ukrainian forces which are left, or they’re nonetheless fragmented? And does Russia seem to have important management over the town such that they really feel they will take away their troops and nonetheless keep management over it? Or is there — is that this a chance for Ukraine to press flat there. 

MR. KIRBY:  Nicely, there’s an terrible lot there. And with the caveat that we do not have good visibility on Russian models and what they’re doing and the place they are going. I’d simply make a few huge factors. One, we do assess that the Russians proceed to pound Mariupol from the air. So, Mariupol — the preventing in Mariupol isn’t executed. Not — actually not from what we are able to see, as a result of they proceed to speak about it. Now we have seen some indications that they’re transferring a few of their floor forces away from Mariupol. 

The final consensus right here is that that is an effort to start to maneuver north into the Donbas. I can not let you know what meaning. What the Russians consider that meaning for his or her occupation of Mariupol or the place they assume they’re, however we now have seen some motion of Russian forces away from Mariupol and extra in direction of the north, however that we consider is of a chunk of their efforts to attempt to encircle Ukrainian armed forces which are within the Donbas. Did that get at every little thing?

Q:  Sure, it’ll. Do you could have any evaluation as to how a lot of a power Ukraine nonetheless has there? And any evaluation of the continued effort to get civilians out? 

MR. KIRBY:  I haven’t got a great arduous variety of what number of Ukrainian forces are nonetheless in Mariupol. I will surely check with the Ukrainian Armed Forces to talk to that. We all know that there have been some evacuations of some civilians. We clearly urge the Russians to proceed to work with the Pink Cross and Ukrainian authorities to permit those that need to depart to go away and to do it safely with out harassment. However I could not let you know precisely what the scope of the Ukrainian resistance remains to be in Mariupol. Once more, they’re nonetheless bombing the town. So, I believe that actually is a minimum of one indicator that they consider that the battle for Mariupol has not been received and it is not over. 

Yeah? 

Q:  Yeah, a few issues. 

MR. KIRBY:  Who’re you? 

Q:  Sorry, say once more? 

MR. KIRBY:  Who’re you?

Q:  Pete Martin. You ask this each time. Pete Martin, from Bloomberg. Tony’s colleague. 

MR. KIRBY:  Nicely, see, you are now right here. 

Q:  So, first off, I questioned you probably have any updates on potential safety ensures to Sweden and Finland or, you understand, any replace on negotiations with these two nations as they appear basically in direction of NATO membership?

MR. KIRBY:  Nicely, I’ll say a few issues. I imply, as we have mentioned earlier than, we help NATO’s open-door coverage. That is one. Two, no matter discussions about NATO membership are going to happen, they are going to happen between these two governments within the alliance, and definitely, that is for these events to debate and what that appears like. We’d by no means get forward of that right here in america, actually not on the Protection Division. And as for safety ensures, I imply, once more, that is properly forward of the place discussions even are proper now. We work routinely with each nations. Now we have glorious protection partnerships with each Sweden and Finland. And we’re assured that ought to issues transfer alongside in that course, that these robust military-to-military relationships with would in all probability allow, you understand, a broader, deeper dialogue about their protection wants.

Q:  I simply wished to know — individually, do have any indicators of any Chinese language help to Russia and Ukraine? Is that also the identical standing as earlier than?

MR. KIRBY:  We see no indications. 

Yeah, Jen? 

Q:  John, Taiwan’s protection ministry mentioned on Monday it is contemplating various weapons choices after the U.S. knowledgeable it that the supply of an artillery system, one in all these self-propelled howitzers, could be delayed due to a crowded manufacturing line. Is Taiwan not getting its weapon programs as a result of the howitzers are going to Ukraine? Or is there an issue with provide chain points associated to Ukraine?

MR. KIRBY:  By way of the howitzers going to Ukraine, I imply, that’s transferring and transferring fairly properly. As a matter of truth, a big majority of the 90 that we now have already dedicated are literally in Ukraine. And so, that continues to circulate fairly properly. As for the Taiwan state of affairs, I’d refer you to the State Division. That is actually extra their bailiwick than it’s the U.S. Division of Protection. Keep in mind, what we’re doing for Ukraine, Jen, is basically, nearly wholly presidential drawdown authority. 

So, it is authorization from the President to tug from our personal shares. That could be a completely different methodology of offering army articles than what’s being offered by means of to Taiwan. And that is all being executed by means of the State Division.

Q:  And simply there’s been a report that Vladimir Putin has most cancers goes to bear surgical procedure and will hand over management of the federal government to a former FSB Normal. Do you could have any intelligence suggesting that that is correct?

MR. KIRBY:  I’ve seen nothing that would assist us corroborate that. No. Afraid not. 

Yeah?

Q:  Mr. Kirby, are you able to inform us something about Russian Normal Gerasimov’s go to to Ukraine? What was he doing there? And did he are available hurt’s manner? Was he injured in an assault?

MR. KIRBY:  I can not affirm Normal Gerasimov’s journey. I believe I would refer you to the Russian Ministry of Protection to talk to the place he goes and when he goes and why he goes. We’re not capable of communicate to that with any specificity. And I’ve no updates on his bodily medical situation to offer you. 

Q:  Is he there now? 

MR. KIRBY:  I believe I am going to let the Russian Ministry of Protection communicate for his or her generals and the place they’re. I haven’t got something that I can corroborate or affirm with respect to Normal Gerasimov and whether or not he went to Ukraine or not. Cannot affirm that. 

Gordon? 

Q:  So, do you could have any updates to the claims the Ukrainians have made and — on the drones taking out the ships? And are these claims you’ll be able to… 

MR. KIRBY:  Cannot affirm these experiences. I imply, I’ve seen the identical video that you simply guys have seen, I believe on-line. And we’re not ready to substantiate that.

Q:  OK. After which in anticipation of the President’s journey tomorrow. Do you could have any updates on the variety of contracts the Pentagon has issued to trade to assist replenish among the stuff that is been offered to the Ukrainians? And is the Pentagon nonetheless type of proud of the way in which trade has responded to… 

MR. KIRBY:  No new contracts to talk to, however as you understand, there is a threshold for the way — what stage of contracts we really public announce. However no contracts to announce or communicate to in the present day. The one factor I’d add is beneath the USAI, the Ukraine Safety Help Initiative, you understand, we now have talked to trade concerning the Puma UASes, however I haven’t got any further ones to talk to. 

MR. KIRBY:  Court docket? 

Q:  Senator Blumenthal mentioned, in entrance of a Senate International Relations Committee, that the USA despatched about one-third of its Javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine, one-third of the provision, and replenishing these shares would require 32 months. Are you able to affirm if that is right? And are there another of these sorts of like resupply of a few of these different issues just like the — the M-777s which you can speak to how lengthy it takes and the place the U.S. stockpile is? 

MR. KIRBY:  You are gonna should let me take a few of that, Court docket. I am not an skilled on how lengthy it could takes to make a howitzer. I would just say a few issues. Primary, we’re not going to speak about what our personal stock is of something. And I believe you’ll be able to perceive why we would not do this. We do not assume it is significantly useful to put out what our stock stage is for anybody specific system or set of munitions. 

Quantity two, with each drawdown bundle, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, in addition to the division, makes an evaluation as to the affect on our readiness. And it is not about simply what number of of those you could have on the shelf; it is what your readiness is for the aptitude. So, it is not about counting, say, Javelins and with the ability to say, properly, should you attain a sure stage, then all of your readiness is gone. Javelin is an anti-armor functionality. So, we choose all of it as a conglomerate of what is our potential to fulfill this specific mission set. Realizing {that a} Javelin is not the one functionality you could have in opposition to armor. 

So, with each drawdown bundle, we make an evaluation concerning the affect on our readiness. And what I can let you know is that up to now, we now have not seen any destructive affect on our potential to defend this nation throughout a spread of army capabilities. However that’s not one thing we take flippantly. It isn’t only a glib, cliche manner of attempting to get out of your query. It’s a legit factor that we have a look at with each drawdown bundle. 

Q:  Is there something that is written in like laws or something that claims, you understand, each particular functionality like anti-armor or anti-air has to take care of this proportion of its stockpile? The U.S. cannot go previous that. The Pentagon cannot decide to go previous that. Is…

MR. KIRBY:  I am not conscious of any laws that requires a proportion — no, I am not conscious of any. Now, once more, it is as a result of expertise retains altering, and the capabilities get higher and extra refined with every passing 12 months. So, there could be a restricted utility in assigning a sure proportion that must be available at any given time. However that would change relying on the munition we’re speaking about. I imply, not each piece of armament is of the identical operational, strategic worth as one other. So, once more, it is a holistic view right here about readiness. 

And all I can guarantee you is, and definitely, we are able to guarantee the American those that we’re greater than able to persevering with to defend the homeland, and we have a look at this with each single bundle. And we’re doing one of the best we are able to to make it possible for Ukraine has the capabilities it wants within the second, proper now with the preventing within the Donbas within the south to raised defend their sovereignty. And as you noticed, the secretary and deputy secretary met with the protection contracting CEOs simply a few weeks in the past to speak about manufacturing traces. After we had been in Ramstein, the secretary devoted an entire session of that afternoon to speaking concerning the protection industrial base. Not simply in america, however all these nations are as a result of so many different nations are contributing programs and weapons to Ukraine. And naturally, you understand, we’ll proceed to do this going ahead. So. 

Let me take a pair from the telephones right here. Idrees? 

Q:  Hey, John. Now, that we’re two extra —  two months — greater than two months into — into — into the struggle. May you speak about when the final time the secretary tried to achieve out to his Russian counterpart? And I assume he hasn’t been profitable. What occurs when he reaches out is the Protocol Workplace reaches out to the Russian facet? They do not reply, or they choose up the cellphone, after which they are saying, no, thanks? Are you able to form of speak us by means of that? 

MR. KIRBY:  Usually, you attain out by means of the coverage channels. And also you additionally use the protection attache, the protection attache on the embassy it doesn’t matter what the nation is in query that senior army officer is a illustration of the Secretary of Protection inside all of our embassies. And so, they’re often, after working it by means of coverage by way of the efficacy of doing a name, often we rely closely on the protection attache. I haven’t got a date to offer you, Idrees, when the final try was. It has been fairly a while, actually, many weeks, since we have tried one other communication with Minister Shoigu. And there has not been a lot curiosity proven by the Russians in having that dialog. 

Mike Brest, Washington Examiner?

Q:  Thanks for taking my query. With Russia’s victory … from in the present day, does the Pentagon consider Russia will make a stronger push to get a definitive victory between at times?

MR. KIRBY:  I can not communicate for the Russian plans right here, Mike. I believe that could be a query higher put to the Ministry of Protection. And I believe if you’re asking them, I would additionally urge you to seek out out when it’s Mr. Putin goes to do the suitable factor and finish the struggle as a result of he can finish the struggle proper now. If he so chooses. However as for what their plans are relating to Victory Day; I believe I would allow you to communicate to them. What I can let you know is that the Ukrainians proceed to combat again, to withstand to take action ably and nimbly, fairly successfully. We’ve not seen the Russians make an entire lot of progress within the Donbas space or, fairly frankly, within the south. And that is a results of the talent and the bravery and, fairly frankly, the sorts of capabilities that america and so many different nations are offering the Ukrainians of their self-defense. 

However as for what their plans are for later this month, I believe that is one thing that they need to communicate to. What we might urge them to plan to do is to fulfill with Mr. Zelenskyy, to tug their troops out of Ukraine, and to finish the struggle. And so they can do this in the present day. 

Yeah, Joe?

Q:  On the protection secretary’s assembly together with his Japanese counterpart this week. What are the deliverables going to be from that assembly? And the way a lot will parallels between Ukraine and Taiwan play into that competitors?

MR. KIRBY:  I am not going to get forward of the deliverables for the assembly. I imply, we’ll have a great readout of it. You guys could have entry to the opening feedback for that. We’re wanting ahead to this. This is among the most essential alliances we now have around the globe. It is with Japan. And really, very excited to have Minister Kishi come see us in individual. He attended nearly, however he attended the Protection Consultative Group Assembly in Ramstein on Ukraine. 

So, I absolutely count on that points relating to Ukraine and the way Japan and the way america are going to proceed to help Ukraine might be on the agenda. I additionally absolutely count on that tensions with China might be on the agenda, as you would possibly count on. However the diploma to which there’s an interaction between the 2, I believe we’ll simply let these two ministers speak earlier than we get out forward of that. 

I’d simply supply if I’d, and also you heard the secretary has mentioned this publicly that we’ve bought to watch out drawing too many comparisons between Taiwan and Ukraine. Utterly two completely different situations. Nothing’s modified about our continued adherence to the One China coverage; nothing has modified about our continued dedication to proceed to help Taiwan’s self-defense wants by means of the Taiwan Relations Act. It is a completely different state of affairs. And I believe all of us should be cautious earlier than drawing too many parallels. 

Jen, I already bought you. 

Go forward. 

Q:  Only a query relating to Iran. In the previous few weeks, Iran has mentioned that they haven’t any plans to desert their plot to assassinate and price retaliation for the Qasem Soleimani strike. Mossad can be saying, and that is based on the Prime Minister’s Workplace in Israel, {that a} plot to assassinate a U.S. Normal in Germany was foiled. And in addition, within the final week, China and Iran furthered their army cooperation. So, how does this Iranian provocative exercise change our power safety posture in relation to abroad deployments? 

MR. KIRBY:  We all the time have a look at our power safety abroad, significantly within the Center East. And we alter it routinely primarily based on regardless of the present safety menace is. I’d simply let you know a few issues with out stepping into the particular anecdotes you cited there and I am not going to speak about intelligence. However no one right here on the division is oblivious to the truth that Iran continues to be a malign actor within the area. They proceed to help terrorist teams; they proceed to develop a ballistic missile program. They clearly, whilst they sit in negotiations, proceed to develop sure nuclear capabilities. And they’re harassing delivery and clearly pose a menace within the maritime area. You choose it. There’s an terrible lot there that Iran is doing in a malign manner within the Center East area. 

And that’s the reason whilst this division continues to consider that Iran with no nuke — no drawback within the Center East is less complicated to resolve with Iran having a nuclear weapon. So, we proceed to help the work of our diplomats as they attempt to get a brand new settlement right here on their nuclear improvement. However even with all that help, we nonetheless have a basic obligation to guard our safety pursuits within the Center East and people of our allies and companions there. And that is why we nonetheless have a strong presence on the bottom and at sea within the Center East. And we’re continuously reviewing that as properly, whether or not we now have that proper, primarily based on the menace. 

So, look, power safety, and the safety of our footprint stays a paramount concern for the secretary. And naturally, he has lots of expertise in that a part of the world. So, he watches this very, very intently. However we do not speak about, nor ought to we speak about on any given day, the way it modifications due to Iran’s a number of destabilizing actions, that, too, the menace, too, modifications each day. 

Q:  John, only a follow-up. The Mossad mentioned that it foiled an assault by Iran on a U.S. Normal in Germany. Who was the U.S. Normal, and when did this happen? 

MR. KIRBY:  I am not gonna speak about that. 

Yeah? 

Q:  Thanks. I need to ask you about North Korea. In March, the INDOPACOM enhanced their readiness stage amongst — amongst their missile protection forces within the area and elevated their intelligence assortment exercise close to North Korea. May you give us an replace on that? Does that enhanced readiness standing stay the identical?

MR. KIRBY:  I’ll simply, with out stepping into the particular intelligence points, we clearly you noticed us speak about elevated ISR capabilities that we had been going to be making use of within the wake of those now a number of latest exams by the North Koreans. And we’re nonetheless doing that. And we’re continuously on the lookout for methods to get smarter and to get higher info, in addition to to ensure we’re sharing that with the South Koreans. 

OK. Within the again there. 

Q:  Oh, thanks, John. I would wish to return to Ukraine for a second. A few days in the past, I coated the second when Congress simply permitted the Lend-Lease Act for Ukraine. And so they talked concerning the political significance of this. However I would wish to ask you concerning the army perspective. Do you could have any plan or any technique? Which tools, which arms may be offered to Ukraine utilizing the Lend-Lease? What would be the distinction between, you understand, international army gross sales or army support? And does it imply that, for instance, prefer it was after — through the Second World Struggle, that arms will go individually, and one thing like Humvees, will undergo Lend-Lease?

MR. KIRBY:  Yeah. So, it is pending laws. The President hasn’t signed it but. So, I am not gonna get forward of the President right here. If and when he indicators that then it turns into legislation, after which we’ll execute it. After which I am positive we’ll have the ability to speak about it in additional element. 

What I can speak about is what we’re doing proper now. And what we’re doing proper now’s persevering with to ship over the weapons and materials of the final two presidential drawdown authorities, what we’re calling seven and eight, which was very, very centered on artillery, significantly and a few radar capabilities, in addition to some unmanned capabilities. The sorts of issues that we all know that they want as a result of they’ve instructed us they want within the Donbas and within the south. And so that is what we’re centered on proper now. And I simply do not need to get forward of laws that hasn’t been signed into legislation by the President. 

Yeah? 

Q:  I simply kinda wished to comply with up on Bloomberg’s query, simply broadening it up past… 

MR. KIRBY:  Is there a man from Bloomberg right here? 

(LAUGHTER)

Q:  Have you ever seen different nations present arms or equal to — to Russia? If that’s the case, which of them? Or do you assess that Russia remains to be simply going and burning by means of its personal inventories? 

MR. KIRBY:  You recognize, I’ve seen no indication that they’ve gotten exterior help from a 3rd nation, that they — and to our thoughts, I do know we talked about this an terrible lot, sadly, during the last couple of months, however they’d assembled an terrible lot of their very own natural fight energy exterior Ukraine earlier than the twenty fourth of February. You recognize, greater than 120 battalion tactical teams a big portion of their air power and different capabilities that they’d accessible to them and as they focus now in a smaller geographic space, they nonetheless have lots of that fight energy left. I am under no circumstances suggesting that they have not suffered casualties; they’ve, they have not suffered losses, they actually have. However they nonetheless have a not-insignificant quantity of their fight energy nonetheless accessible to them. So, they nonetheless have fairly a bit to attract on. I simply have not seen any indication that they are attempting to attract on exterior sources from different governments or different nations. 

Let’s have a look at. Lara Seligman? 

Q:  Hey, John. Thanks for doing this. I wished to ask you, from U.S. and NATO perspective, does DoD see this example in Ukraine as a long-term combat?

MR. KIRBY:  We actually assume that it might be, Lara. I imply, no one is aware of how lengthy that is going to go. And once more, I am going to say it once more; I am going to hold saying it each day; it may finish in the present day. It may finish proper now. It is a struggle of selection that Mr. Putin determined to wage on his personal whereas he nonetheless had diplomatic choices on the desk. So it may finish now. There isn’t any purpose for it to go a single different day. 

That mentioned, as a result of the Donbas is a area that the Russians and the Ukrainians have had skilled preventing each other in as a result of the Russians are going to be concentrating now nearly all of their remaining fight energy within the Donbas and within the south. And since Ukrainians have clearly proven no real interest in capitulating and never preventing for each inch of their territory, there’s a distinct chance that this might go on for fairly a while. But it surely would not be the sensible factor to do for us to attempt to circle the date on the calendar and say, properly, we predict it will take that lengthy. We simply do not know. And once more, it is our hope that it does not go on in any respect, that it may cease now. However once more, Mr. Putin has proven no proclivity to need to do this.

Q:  Are you able to hear me? Simply to comply with up, what — would then does that — would that require by way of U.S. and NATO troop presence in Europe? Is this extra — does this imply further deployments? Does this imply we hold the posture we now have now for the foreseeable future? What — what does this imply virtually? 

MR. KIRBY:  … that our further troop presence is in Europe due to the — the necessity to make it possible for we are able to defend NATO territory. And to make it very clear to Mr. Putin that america takes Article V commitments to NATO severely. That’s the reason we have added functionality to Europe not particularly tied to occasions on the bottom in Ukraine; it is actually tied extra in direction of the altering safety surroundings, the modified safety surroundings in Europe, due to Mr. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. And so, we have added about 20,000 or so troops on short-term orders to the Jap Flank of NATO. I’ve no bulletins or modifications to that posture to make in the present day or to talk to in the present day. We’ll consider this from week to week as we now have been doing to see whether or not we now have it about proper. 

And when there’s important additions or modifications to it, we’ll actually speak about that. However I would not need you to come back away pondering that our posture in Europe, by way of bolstering NATO’s jap flank, is tied straight. The selections about which are tied on to what the tactical state of affairs is within the Donbas or within the south. That isn’t the aim for them to be there. 

Let’s have a look at. Anymore? Yep? 

Q:  Is there an up to date quantity or an estimated quantity on the quantity of civilians which are nonetheless left in Mariupol? 

MR. KIRBY:  I do not. I believe I bought that query proper initially, and I simply haven’t got an correct quantity. You would be getting a a lot better sense of that by speaking to the Ukrainian authorities; they’d have a cleaner sense. We’re simply not on the bottom there. 

OK, appears to be like like that is about it for in the present day. 



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